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What to with an old TV?

April 30, 2004

Hi Wes,

I have a five-year-old 35" Toshiba TV and a pretty good HT setup, but I really want one of the new flat-screen monitors. I can't go crazy with plasma or anything, but I think I can swing an LCD -- and it's bright enough to view in my sunny living room.

My question seems kind of dumb, but what do I do with my old TV? Is it worth anything?

Marty

I went through the same thing recently. I started out thinking I could sell mine -- it was a really top-end set, circa 1996. No takers at what I thought was a fair price and none at a fire-sale price either. I offered it to two students who live in our neighborhood, but it was too big to fit through their door! I finally found someone willing to haul it away for their mom (they ended up keeping it for themselves when they saw the picture), but I was getting desperate.

You can see if you know anyone who will buy your old CRT, but don't expect to get a fortune. If I'd had more time before my move, I would have seen if a school or charity needed mine -- and the tax credit wouldn't have been unwelcome....Wes Phillips


Speaker choice

April 28, 2004

Hi Wes,

I'll be buying a Pioneer VSX-AX5i receiver and Pioneer DV-868AVI-S DVD player. I'm really going nuts with the choice of A/V speakers. My budget is between 1000 and 2000 Euros for speakers (or cheaper). I have a 30-square-meter room, but the listening area will be around 15 square meters. Any suggestions?

Hint: I've heard of Infinity Oreus, Canton Movie CD-1, and KEF 2005.

Nelson

My advice is buy local. You'll probably get less bang for the buck for non-EEC-manufactured speaker systems.

The KEF's a good choice, but I've been listening to some Cantons lately and I really like 'em. Try to hear the Movie CD-1 system and see what you think. It looks like a good match for the Pioneer receiver.


Center dilemma

April 26, 2004

Wes,

After about a month of auditioning speakers and reading reviews, I had decided on the "perfect" set of speakers about five different times. Then I read your review of the Magnepan MMG W/MMG C and decided that with the 60-day trial I couldn't go wrong. The MMG Ws arrived two weeks ago and your review could not have been more accurate.

But now I have another problem -- what to use as a center speaker? Is the MMG C as sensitive to wall placement as the MMG W? The center speaker will be on top of a rather tall (6 1/2') entertainment center and will be approximately 2 1/2' in front of the rear wall and the MMG Ws. Is this arrangement a problem? I prefer to use the MMG C if possible. My second choice is Axiom's VP-150. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Anne

The MMG C actually ought to be away from the wall a bit, so I think your placement will be OK -- the only reason I don't say "swell" is that, in theory, the center speaker and LF and LR speakers should all be the same distance from your seating position (creating a shallow arc).

Obviously, if the MMG C is on top of the entertainment center and the other speakers are on the wall, you can't have that optimum placement. So improvise! When you set up the speakers using your receiver's setup menu, you may have to adjust the center-channel down a bit in volume to match the front side channels (a few receivers let you set the distance from your seating position for each front channel, as well as the surrounds, so use that if you have it).

Is this a big deal? No, it's just me being an anal-retentive audiophile. If it sounds OK to you and you don't wish to bother with all that, just ignore me -- I'm married, I'm used to it.

I like the Axiom VP-150 very much, but the MGM C will be a better tonal match to your MGM Ws.

Have fun!


Home-theater with Yamaha and Axiom

April 23, 2004

Hello Wes,

I have a Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver and just ordered the Axiom Epic 80 speaker system. I've had the receiver for about a year with old speakers, so I never really took the time to learn about it, or home theater in general. Well, times have changed. I'm enjoying staying home and watching movies and want to get the most out of my system, which is why (after many hours on the Internet reading and researching ) I've ordered new speakers.

I've learned my Yamaha has DSP. Should I get two more speakers for L&R side effects? And what's your opinion on running two subs? Is this all overkill and not really necessary, or will it really enhance the sound and be worth the investment? And should the subs be matched (same size, same brand)?

Rey

Wow -- the RX-Z1 is one cooool receiver. You had it for a whole year and only recently felt the bug to upgrade your speakers? Either it's better than I thought -- or you have iron self-control.

Start with the basic Epic 80 system and get used to it. I suspect you'll be hooting with glee and forcing everybody to see videos they've seen a billion times -- but never really heard before.

Normally, I'm not a big fan of the DSP functions on receivers, but the Yamaha's algorithms are derived from pretty sound acoustic measurements, so they ought to sound pretty good. After you've broken in the Epic 80 system, why not hook up your old loudspeakers as side-effects speakers and see whether you think side speakers are worth the effort?

I'm a big fan of dual subwoofers. With two, you can place them to avoid room nulls and frequently get better sound than if you used a single larger and more powerful sub. Do they have to match? No -- but get two that both give you as wide a range of control options as possible. And keep reading www.onhometheater.com for the setup tips I'll be publishing over the next few weeks.

Oh yeah -- the Yamaha has excellent bass management, so you're really fortunate there.

If you take it one step at a time, you won't have any doubt about whether or not it's overkill. Given the gear you've got now, I think that you can create a deeply satisfying home-theater system that just might keep you out of the movie palaces forever -- and that's a good thing.

Check back in and let us know what you think.


Which sub?

April 21, 2004

Hello,

I read your review of Hsu STF-3 subwoofer. I am the owner of Magnepan MG12s up front and MMGs in the rear. I have been tormenting myself over the purchase of a subwoofer. Hsu, SVS, and now Outlaw have relatively low-cost subs that compete with subs that are considerably more expensive. You had glowing things to say about the STF-3. Is it a VTF-3 without the pluggable ports? Do you think it is fast enough to keep up with the Maggies. I use my system 75/25 for music/theater. Any thoughts of the other brands?

KLib

Based on what I can see, the STF-3 is not simply a rebadged VTF-3. Since all ports are "pluggable" if you have the right-diameter foam inserts, I don’t see where there'd be any reason to do this. The two certainly seem similar, but I haven't reviewed a VTF-3 so I can't say for sure.

I do think the STF-3 is fast enough to mate well with the Maggies.

The Outlaw sub is a collaboration with Dr. Hsu, so I suspect it is very good -- again, I can't speak to its similarities or differences with Hsu's own products since I haven't gotten my mitts on one.

I'm intrigued by SVS's products. Their website makes their products look pretty dang spiffy -- spiffy enough that I have requested a sample for review. I'll report back on my experiences after I've had a chance to play with it.


Headroom for Maggies

April 19, 2004

Hello Wes,

I have recently purchased a Magnepan 5.1 speaker system. I have been researching amplifiers to push these speakers, and it's turning into a difficult decision. Which of these amps do you think would sound better with the Maggies -- Aragon 2005 or Sunfire Cinema Grand? The local Magnepan dealer recommended an Anthem MCA 5, but I'd rather have more headroom.

P.S. I love to push my equipment to its full potential!

Thank you for you time,

Dustin

Glorioski, man -- you don't think the Anthem has sufficient headroom? I suspect that by "push my equipment to its full potential," you mean play it loud. I don't think the difference in output between the 200Wpc Anthem and 300Wpc Aragon will be particularly noticeable. It should work out to somewhere between 2 and 3dB.

Besides I hate to disillusion you, but you probably won't ever cruise above about 50W (except for a few instantaneous peaks) with either design. I like the Anthem a lot and I've spent quite a few hours of enjoyable listening with the Aragon, so I'd feel comfortable recommending either. I haven't really heard the Sunfire, so I can offer no opinion there.

If you really think you can discern a difference between the Anthem and the Aragon based on headroom, buy the Aragon. It's as valid a reason for preference as any -- and possibly better than most.


Center-channel problems

April 16, 2004

Hi Wes,

I read your response about the problems people have in matching a center-channel speaker for their surround systems. I'm pretty much a novice and would appreciate any comments you might have on my particular problem.

I have acquired a pair of Legacy Classic speakers to go with the same company's center-channel speaker. I'm not totally sure of the latter's model number, but it has a single round center tweeter and two small side woofers. The amplifier is a high-end Yamaha. The problem is that although music sounds great, dialogue and speech are horribly muffled, with some of the words almost inaudible and too much background music interfering with the "speech."

I brought in an audio guy to examine the system and he noticed that bass and treble controls on the amp didn't seem to change any of the sound quality at all (as if you weren't even turning the dials). He seemed to feel that the tweeter on the center speaker was defective simply by listening directly over it with a cone of paper.

Any thoughts you may have would be greatly appreciated!

Matthew

First, most bass and treble controls don't actually exert much influence over any speaker's sound. These days, you're probably only getting a total range of about 3dB difference between "fully engaged" and zero. But that's just the pedant in me talking -- it has very little to do with your problem.

Your "audio guy" (you don't say if he's a repair person, a salesman, or just somebody who is really into hi-fi) is probably right that you're having a tweeter problem. You may not have a blown tweeter, however. Legacy uses two sets of binding posts, which should be connected by jumpers. If the jumpers aren't there, you may only be connecting the woofers. Use short lengths of speaker wire to connect both positive terminals to one another (ditto for the negative terminals as well, of course).

You should also check the setup menu on your preamp/processor -- make sure it's set up properly and that you don't have the center inadvertently set to "phantom" or potted way down in the mix.


In-wall dilemma

April 15, 2004

Wes,

I need to select speakers for an in-wall application in my family room. The speakers unfortunately need to be inset into the wall approximately 10' above the floor for the L/C/R. I looked at the Triads, but they are too deep. We only have 6" of clearance instead of the 10" required. I've heard the RBH and did not hear the Mirage.

Listening position is 12' back approximately with a plasma screen mounted in the center. We will most likely do two RBH in-floor subs, which will be covered by heating registers since we have a raised floor in this room. The rears are also in-wall. Your thoughts would be most appreciated on how to get a very wide soundstage and the music down near the listening position.

Ray

I haven't heard the RBH in-walls, but I've been very impressed by their speakers in the past. Since I have the Mirages in my kitchen (and mounted up high, too), I can speak for their quality. They're very good and quite full-bodied.

Since you'll be sitting 12' back, I think you'll get full sound, but it will probably be pretty obvious that the speakers are in a different vertical plane than the display. It might be possible to have your installer shim the upper edge of the speaker mounts so they angle down slightly, which might help a little.

The rears and subs should be fine -- and the L/C/Rs might work just fine; I just can't say. If at all possible, try to mock up a demo before cutting your wall -- it may be a pain in the butt, but it's better than kicking yourself in the rear end for the next five years if you get it wrong.


Which Magnepans?

April 12, 2004

Dear Wes,

A few months ago I first heard about Magnepan. For a while now, I've been busy determining which products would be best for my 5.1 studio, where I monitor my film and music productions. My budget is not very big, and I felt lucky when I read about the MMG Ws. There's one point I'm doubting. In your review, you talk about a frequency response of 100Hz to "only" 16kHz! It seems not enough for me if I use them as front speakers. The original MMGs go to 24kHz, so that seems a more attractive alternative to me. Is the difference in treble between those models really that big? Oh yeah, and how about the MGMC1/MGCC2? The MGMC1 also goes to 24kHz, and the MGCC2 only to 20kHz. That seems a more satisfying alternative.

I hope you can give me some advice.

Joris

Different people will value that "extra" 8kHz of high-frequency extension to a greater or lesser extent. I felt the MMG W was reasonably well-balanced for a loudspeaker that sells for $300/pair -- certainly better than the shrill boxes many manufacturers sell at that price point.

If you can afford 'em, go for the MMGs -- especially since you're monitoring your recordings for QC. Ditto the MGMC1/MGCC2 question.

There is no question that the MGCC2/MGMC1 system is better. It also costs more. What makes the MMG W/MMG C system so magical is the way it does not trade away high-end magic to meet a modest price point, but if you don't have budget constraints, more is better -- and the MGCC2/MGMC1 is more.


Display choices

April 8, 2004

Wes,

So many choices! I've come to grips with the fact that the $3000 price point is where I'll be for a TV purchase for my newly finished basement/home theater. There appears to be three fundamental choices at that price point, and I'd love your insight into the pros and cons of each. They are a 50" Samsung DLP TV, a 50" Sony Grand Wega rear-projection LCD, or a Pioneer Elite or Mitsubishi Diamond rear-projection CRT.

Though space isn't too much of an issue, I love the thin profile of the DLP and rear-projection LCDs. They also seem significantly brighter. However, I can't help worrying that I'd be paying a hefty premium for "new technology" versus value. Any insight is appreciated!

Najeeb

Unlike plasma displays, modern LCDs, DLPs, and RP CRTs are reasonably mature, stable technologies -- and very reasonably priced in comparison. At CES 2004, I was extremely impressed by the deep colors of the LCD displays I saw there -- and surprised myself at how much I wanted one. I wouldn't worry about any of your choices proving skittish in the long run. I think you'll probably be very well off with any of them.


Lots of speakers

April 6, 2004

Wes,

I love your candid advice!

I'm setting up a home theater in a newly finished basement and want to limit my speaker purchase for a 5.1 system (hope to add speakers for 7.1 later) to $1500. The listening area is about 20' x 20', with the room opening up to an overall dimension of about 35' x 25'. Based on reviews, suggestions from others and some listening, I'm torn between the Aperion Intimus, Axiom Epic Grand Master, Mirage Omnisat Micro, and Paradigm Monitor 7 series. I would very much appreciate any thoughts you have about these speakers or any suggestions you have for others at this price point that I have missed.

Najeeb

Believe it or not, I don't think you need any more choices -- you need to eliminate a few, if anything. You've chosen a passel of good systems, but they're quite different from one another. Given the size of your room -- it's a big 'un -- I'd probably look more at the Axioms or the Paradigms than the smaller Aperions or Omnisat Micros. However, you'd be the best judge of how much space you want to devote in your room to speakers -- the smaller models may fit in better with the ways you use your room.

It's the balance between all of the factors that dictates what's the best choice for you.

I suspect you'll eventually want to add a second -- or possibly a bigger -- subwoofer to your system. You've got a lot of room to fill and it'll absorb a lot of bottom-end sound.

Stay tuned for a series of subwoofer reviews and setup tutorials.


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